@SaraMcKnight: Apple Vs Microsoft. Which One Should I Choose?
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  • 17.4%
    Macs are highly overrated. The premium is completely unjustified. (290 votes)
  • 38.2%
    The Mac is light years ahead of Windows. (637 votes)
  • 8.5%
    Buy a mac and pray to iGod twice a day. (141 votes)
  • 17.5%
    A Mac will turn you into a better human being. (292 votes)
  • 9.1%
    I hate MS but I hate apple more. Go with Ubuntu! (151 votes)
  • 9.4%
    Other (156 votes)
300 comments
Tyler J Wilsonposted 865 days ago
A Mac is a good choice. You can get a pretty damn good on for $2k and you can install Windows on it for games so it's basically a win win. No viruses and games. Who wouldn't want that?
Kyle Jonesposted 865 days ago
Macs have viruses, don't kid yourself. Again, underhanded advertising from Apple.
Ron Bischofposted 865 days ago
Computer virus: A piece of code that is capable of copying itself and typically has a detrimental effect, such as corrupting the system or destroying data.

Please provide a list a self-replicating Mac OS X viruses in the wild. Actually, I'd be satisfied with one.

And please don't construct a straw man, i.e. that I'm asserting it's not possible. It is, it just hasn't occurred, which was your assertion.
Kamran Sarkarposted 864 days ago
Ron Bischof

Here are the lists of reasons why I would never choose a mac.

1. Mac has a small number of users compared to the giants out there.
2. It is not a computer rather trying to portray themselves as a 'style icon'.
3. While they look good, hardly there's any use when you're comparing versatility of a Windows platform.
4. They have a set number of people who hardly knows anything about computers however worships mac for being the 'God' of computers.

You fall in the last category.

I understand the programmers point of view. Why would I want to build something using my intelligent brains which is in use by what - a 9% of the population?

i'd rather go for the bigger picture here. And hence all the virus that you get is for windows.

And for you as well - Apple was sinking deep before Microsoft came and helped them out. Only then they started to rise again.

And macs cant play games. They're again, NOT a computer. An expensive child's playt
Datan0deposted 864 days ago
Macs are child's playthings because they "don't play games"? #LogicFail
As for the rest:
1) Argumentum ad populum
2) Absurd. A Mac is, in fact, a UNIX workstation. To confuse Apple's superb industrial engineering and slick marketing with a lack of functionality is both absurd and ignorant.
3) I'll concede that there's a wider range of hardware configurations for PCs, but if that's your sole criteria then Linux beats both Windows and MacOS hands down.
4) I wrote my first program on a Sinclair ZX-80 in 1980, first used a Mac in 1984, and have used PCs since 1986. I've worked in IT for a decade and a half, have been building PCs since 1995, and first installed Slackware Linux that same year. I use, build, repair, service, and maintain Windows, Linux, and Apple machines every single day. Each platform has its advantages, but overall Macs are so far ahead of Windows and Linux that, IMHO, the fact that this debate is even happening at all is laughable. Go play your video games. I've got work to do.
anniaposted 862 days ago
I love your very logical explanation for this unreasonable debate. I begun with PC, but once I discovered Mac I would never go back! Unfriendly and very masculine machine these PCs.
I wouldn't dare to compare Alfa Romeo to Honda! [Alfa Romeo representing Apple here LOL!]
Slippy Dposted 852 days ago
Datan0de == Win.
Phil Howardposted 847 days ago
Macs can't play games? Sheeesh... then all those hours wasted playing WoW and Spore were just figments of my imagination!?

You'd be amazed how much work I get done on my useless little toy aluminum non computer.

That said, I keep a PC handy as a curiosity and a Windows XP/Ubuntu netbook for lounging around wasting time replying to comments from illogical ill informed illiterate idiots such as yourself.
Tiago Matosposted 655 days ago
LOL... You say you understand the programmers point of view? I think I'll just stop coding now to ROTFLOL for the rest of the day. You clearly have no idea.
Kamran Sarkarposted 864 days ago
OSX/Oompa-A is one of the viruses.
Ron Bischofposted 864 days ago
Thank you for your evaluation of my technical skills. I always enjoy humor.

OSX/Oompa-A is a Trojan, is not self-replicating without user intervention , i.e. supplying Admin credentials. Which is why it never propagated widely.

Again, I refer you to the computer virus definition I helpfully provided.

http://www.oreillynet.com/sysadmin/blog/2006/02/trojan_or_worm.html

And thanks for resurrecting the 12 year old chestnut about MS "saving" Apple. No doubt the commitment to continue producing a Mac version of Office for 5 years assisted Apple by providing credibility while Apple reinvented itself under Jobs leadership, the real reason for their current dominance. But the $150M investment in non-voting stock hardly mattered. But it did provide some cover during Microsoft's DOJ antitrust investigation.

This will help you get current on your data:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=microsoft+apple

Just for giggles, in the search string, substitute HP, Intel, Dell, Sony & IBM for Microsoft. I believe you'll find it illuminating to compare Apple to the "giants".

Oh, and one more thing: Apple is the largest purveyor of digital music on the planet and has 100 million customer credit card numbers on file. Time to think beyond the box, Mr. "intelligent brains".

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353011,00.asp

PS. Note that I support my assertions with 3rd party references. You, uh…don't.
Mousecloneposted 863 days ago
iloveyou inftected all systems. Mac, Windows, and Linux. So there is one for you
Ron Bischofposted 863 days ago
Again, misinformation due to lack of diligence. Windows only. Per Wikipedia:

"The virus is written using Microsoft Visual Basic Scripting (VBS), and requires that the end-user run the script in order to deliver its payload. It will add a set of registry keys to the Windows registry that will allow the malware to start up at every boot.
The worm will then search all drives which are connected to the infected computer and replace files with the extensions *.JPG, *.JPEG, *.VBS, *.VBE, *.JS, *.JSE, *.CSS, *.WSH, *.SCT, *.DOC *.HTA with copies of itself, while appending to the file name a .VBS. extension. The worm will also locate *.MP3 and *.MP2 files, and when found, make the files hidden, copy itself with the same filename and append a .VBS extension.
The worm propagates by sending out copies of itself to all entries in the Microsoft Outlook address book. It also has an additional component, in which it will download and execute an infected program called variously "WIN-BUGSFIX.EXE" or "Microsoftv25.exe". This is a password-stealing program which will e-mail cached passwords."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILOVEYOU

Do your homework before you pass on hearsay.
stevegodleyposted 862 days ago
Oh man I LOVE YOUR PUTDOWNS!!!

You're obviously a keen Mac User as I am - I have to use Windoze at work - we were crippled by Konfiker B this year. So I switched to my MacBook Pro on the WiFi and carried on working normally!!

That's why I refuse to have a single Windoze machine in my home.... I see the problems from a professional angle day in and day out.

Keep up the good work.
Ron Bischofposted 862 days ago
My chief objective here is for people to make decisions based on relevant facts rather than hearsay and FUD. Choice is best for consumers and folks should select what works best for their needs.
Nathan DiGesare IIposted 865 days ago
Whateva
John Newposted 864 days ago
Undoubtably, but still can't deny the fact that the odds of get a Mac virus is many times lower than that of getting a virus on a windows platform. Get a virus on a Mac and you're pretty much due for a reboot-possibly a total revamp.
Jarrod Michaelposted 864 days ago
No Viruses on Macs EVER!!! Windows user spend time fixing their computer, Apple users create with their computers.
Carbon Planet Ltdposted 864 days ago
I've used macs for many years and, since the launch of OS X, never ever has my Mac been infected with a virus. OS X is secure by design, not by luck.
Marty Yandleposted 862 days ago
5 Macs, 6 years, NO PROBLEMS. Got rid of malware-destroyed Dell laptop as soon as I could, 5 years ago.
Gonzalo Munozposted 849 days ago
Never had an Apple virus.....
Marcelo Livellaraposted 865 days ago
so you meen mac can't play games??????? for that just buy a laptop for under $ 1 k and have it all!!!! ms win yes!!!!
Ron Bischofposted 862 days ago
http://www.apple.com/games/gettingstarted/
Isa Goksuposted 864 days ago
you mean mac mac I gues, not win win :P
anniaposted 862 days ago
I like your sense of humour. Mac Mac! Yes yes!!!
Alex Blueposted 862 days ago
Mac's get virused, don't let the hype fool you and you can install Mac OS on Windows
Ron Bischofposted 862 days ago
"you can install Mac OS on Windows"

You can? Please provide instructions or references.

Or did you mean there are unsupported hacks that can enable a bare metal install on a non-Apple PC in violation of the EULA?
Resim Oylama ✓posted 263 days ago
agree..
FusionCreedposted 137 days ago
I fully agree
Nikolai Sanderposted 865 days ago
I've used PC's for 15 years and mac since one. If you're somewhat technical I don't think it matters much. If you're afraid of computers get a mac
Daniel Sandersonposted 865 days ago
Go for Ubuntu - Cheap hardware + Free OS, best of both worlds!
Kyle Jonesposted 865 days ago
Little known fact: Apple introduced the Macintosh PC in 1984. That's right, Macs ARE PCs. Windows and MacOS are Operating Systems that run on PCs. Don't fall into the Mac Walled-garden. If anything, use Ubuntu if you have the choice.
Robb Lewisposted 865 days ago
well I'm not so sure most people would even understand how to install and manage a linux machine let alone even know what Ubuntu is. If you can afford a mac I'd go that way, good MB's with memory and common sw are around $1500. But if you want to spend less wait for windows 7 and go with a good quality brand like HP, Sony or Lenovo
Sung won Limposted 865 days ago
That was true about two or so years ago, but most of the major linux distributions today are more or less plug&play with graphical installation interface similar to that of win&mac (though it's still a bit rougher than both).
Ron Bischofposted 865 days ago
Agreed. We use Ubuntu as a handy web access, email and school homework machine.
ShayaanFposted 865 days ago
Use Ubuntu? Why? So I have access to the latest applications from 1985?

Linux in general is great, if you're using it for a server. It's not ready for the desktop yet, because you can't game on it (WINE sucks), you can't be productive on it (Photoshop? Premiere? Movie Maker?), and not all hardware works. Best of luck getting into usenet to find a driver for your weird wireless card.
Release Kingposted 865 days ago
Actually, Linux is way better. I am a freelance security analyst. Linux and Mac, both are descended from Unix. The programming is tight, and much more secure than windows. Windows base kernel itself is simply open. Open to all sorts of attacks. Only good thing abt it is softwre abundance. Rest, it is a real crap in the name of programming principles if you ask me. Mac has a real nice graphics engine. Linux, is well open source. but its suprisingly feature loaded seeing that it is free. It might even be the best.
thom gillespieposted 863 days ago
My 1st Mac 1984 and it still works. Bought them in Alaska, California and Indonesia. No viruses and not a single hard drive crash. Unix is good enough for DOD and Mac, good enough for me. Programming and 3D modeling with Blender and Cinema 4D. JUst waiting for that 10 inch tablet.
Kimmo Parviainenposted 865 days ago
Wait for Windows7 and then get a Dell :)
hosweposted 865 days ago
Better user interface. Easier to use.
iakorposted 865 days ago
what do you want? http://bit.ly/35gb6h
Il Hong Yooposted 865 days ago
mac is good. but it's got its own hiccups, thus making totally not worth its current pricing. and charging money for a service pack (snow leopard) is ridiculous. it's their fault that leopard was big and slow. and the video card will blow ur mbp away... literally. again, good but not that good.
NyxoLyno Cangemiposted 865 days ago
Correction ... Snow Leopard is an OPERATING SYSTEM ... not a service pack. In the time it's taken Microsoft to botch Vista, and promise something better (Windows 7) Apple has come out several MAJOR OS upgrades. I don't know about you, but when I get a computer, I don't want the company who supports it to take YEARS updating it.
Kyle Jonesposted 865 days ago
I'm fairly sure Leopard and Vista came out at the same time. Windows 7 and Snow Leopard are pretty close as well. Vista has gone through two Service Packs. While Apple has been dicking around with getting everything over to 64-bit with Snow Leopard and having quite a bit of trouble doing so, Windows has been running it since XP and Windows 7 runs 32-bit apps flawlessly. No, not partially; flawlessly. Microsoft had the foresight there.

As for graphics stacks, hate to break it to you all, but the highest-performing one is DirectX. Apple's is great and everything, but OpenGL has some catching up to do after progress stopped for a long period of time. Only now has it been revived because of Apple and the OSS community's prevalence.
Kyle Jonesposted 865 days ago
Oh and technically, Snow Leopard is still Mac OSX. 10.6. Vista was 6.0 an an entirely new codebase. Win7 is 6.1, but with the server kernel and an entirely revamped graphics subsystem.
Most Know Unknownposted 865 days ago
No, Snow Leopard is considered as an OS to Apple to make you pay for it but they even say its nothing big, just some changes here and there… That to me is a Service pack. AND what do you mean years updating it? Apple is always releasing updates as well. They even released their Snow Leopard with an old version of flash.
Marty Yandleposted 862 days ago
Snow Leopard was released in preparation for new stuff coming out next yrear, says my One To One tutor at Apple Store.
Kamerin Raineposted 865 days ago
macs are better there
Martin Noordmanposted 865 days ago
It works really well ;) I've Windows & Mac; and Mac's just faster then windows and also silencer then windows, if you wanna make a ms pc silence you have to buy liquidcooling which is expensive ;)
Raul Hernandez Aposted 865 days ago
I have both and unless you need some "windows only or pirate" software in which case I wouldnt rely on "virtual windows"... the MAC is way better, faster, nicer, cooler and no viruses to worry about.
ShayaanFposted 865 days ago
I have to laugh at people who think Macs are more secure than Windows.

Read up about the Pwn2Own hacking competition -- Macs fall first EVERY YEAR. They are only secure because there's no profit to hack them -- because nobody uses them for business.

Tweet me back if you disagree :p
NyxoLyno Cangemiposted 865 days ago
Wouldn't that make them safer? Duh! If you're worried about auto theft, would you buy a car that's targeted by thieves?
Kyle Jonesposted 865 days ago
Macs are the fastest and easiest systems to compromise. No, that doesn't make them more secure. Windows has long been the most targeted because of its market share, but OSX is more targeted now because of a larger market share.
Ron Bischofposted 865 days ago
And Windows and Linux don't fall in Pwn2Own as well? Any OS will fail to a voluntarily clicked URL, physical access and social engineering.

As far as business use, I've been using an iMac as my primary system managing a $150M project for the last 2 years. An anecdote shouldn't be extrapolated globally, but you really need to be more careful about unsupported assertions.

http://www.apple.com/business/solutions/

Check out Mac OS X and Mac OS X Server in R&D and Universities too.

I am not an Apple employee nor do I work for any affiliated company.
Soule Benposted 865 days ago
M$ Is bloody hell awful. How dare you! Macs are horrifically overpriced. M$ are a bunch of liars. they clame linux in terms of viruses to win7 is worse. What the hell?
NyxoLyno Cangemiposted 865 days ago
How is a Mac overpriced if you can use it for nine years, then resell it for about 60% of it's purchase price? That's what I did with my original iMac. Bought it for $1,200, used it for nine years (ran like a champ and didn't really NEED to be replaced), sold it for $700. In addition, it came with all the software I needed out of the box to do everything I wanted it to do.
NyxoLyno Cangemiposted 865 days ago
Buy Mac, be happy!
Release Kingposted 865 days ago
Mac is best with both hardware and software. Plus, you can install windows on it too. So, its a Win-Win situation. Go for Apple. Go for Mac.
NyxoLyno Cangemiposted 865 days ago
This is #Microsoft http://bit.ly/4pSCN and this is #Apple http://bit.ly/m9Z8M Any questions?
Release Kingposted 865 days ago
And yeah, windows 7 is simply XP redefined with better graphics, integrated with .Net CLR.
Release Kingposted 865 days ago
Well, after xp's release, 7 was to come out. but microsoft gave out an "unfinished" OS, called Vista, for fillers. I laugh at those who say they are satisfied by their $200 copy of a "filler" OS.
Joe Veenposted 865 days ago
If you go the PC route - wait until they start releasing them with Windows 7 installed! This will save you the trouble of reformatting and installing a fresh OS.
Brandon Grahamposted 855 days ago
Better to say: If you go the PC route, pre-Windows 7 or post, be prepared to reformat and do a clean install no matter what you do.
Release Kingposted 865 days ago
And not to mention the amount of money you have to spend every year on those "Security Software". Without which the windows OS crashes in an hour. I wonder how people can be tormented so easily.
NyxoLyno Cangemiposted 865 days ago
Question: What is the faster laptop running Vista? The answer may surprise you .... it's an Apple! http://www.labnol.org/gadgets/computers/the-fastest-windows-vista-notebook-computer/1687/
Kyle Jonesposted 865 days ago
At that date in 2007. Because Apple had an exclusive contract with Intel to get the MBP processor before anyone else. Just to let you know, my Dell XPS m1530 is almost identical to the generation of MBPs that came out when it came out. Hell, the motherboard manufacturer of both is the same as well as the LCD panel manufaturer, the graphics board manufacturer, the processor manufacturer and the wireless card manufacturer.
Release Kingposted 864 days ago
Yeah yeah, you might literally own a pseudo-mac. But if its not Mac, its not like mac either.
cor tademaposted 865 days ago
The MAC is great for graphics, music and video work but over rated and overpriced for the rest.
Ron Bischofposted 865 days ago
Incorrect and your information is out of date. A Mac is a great general purpose PC that can run any software designed for the x86 architecture, either bare metal or via a virtual machine.

Additionally, it comes complete with a great suite of software applications, many of them rated as best of breed for consumer PCs, rather than trial crapware. Oh, and a Mac OS X version of Microsoft Office is available for purchase from Microsoft, which has been writing Mac software since its introduction in 1984.
Paul McGinnityposted 865 days ago
…and never look back. Although if you feel a need to, you can always install windows on it.
Matt Asplenposted 865 days ago
MAC is nice is you do not "need" to run Windows Software. Not worth the trouble if you do.
J.K. Chaseposted 865 days ago
Love this option!
Angie Salleseposted 865 days ago
I use both platforms, but have chosen Mac as my personal system for almost 20 years now. Fewer hardware problems, although PC's crash constantly and are full of bugs. Macs just work so intuitively, and help to keep your blood pressure down. LOL! Get a Mac.
Stefan Klimajposted 865 days ago
I bought my first Mac many years ago, and have never looked back. I use Windows at both of my jobs and at school, and that is why I have Macs at home. Also, when you buy a mac, you can put windows on it and have the best of both worlds! Also, my Macbook Pro seamlessly integrates with every Windows network and Windows applications I have ever had to interact with. Also, iLife, iWork, and MobileMe have been integral to my professional life, and I use them daily. Want a awesome presentation that is quick and simple to create? Keynote is AMAZING. I have had professors from my college ask me to design new presentations for them because of how bland and difficult Powerpoint is.

When my iBook's hard drive died and it wasn't under warranty, Apple fixed it for free! With my MacBook Pro, I had some issues with the screen, Apple fixed it without a problem. Whenever I had software issues, Apple support was always there, and the genius bar works miracles. There was never any read tape of having to be transfe
Erick Redcloudposted 864 days ago
I think this guy hit the nail on the head on why to go with an apple computer.
Tiara Spellsposted 865 days ago
Macs are amazing! I can't wait to get for Christmas.
Justin Reyesposted 865 days ago
Apple and Microsoft are awesome but when it comes to large support it's Microsoft
mitzsposted 865 days ago
I am PC.
Scott Stuartposted 865 days ago
It's just more fun!
Diego Teixeira posted 865 days ago
Deinately a Mac.
Had not had a Mac until last friday and would not go back for anything!
It's a far better machine and system
Kian Concepcionposted 865 days ago
Get a Mac! They have Boot Camp, which allows you to install Windows on it. :) So you could have the best (Mac) and better (Windows) OS's in one gorgeous machinery.
JeffCole53posted 865 days ago
Your poll question says it all. And it will turn you into a better human being.
Kevin Cullisposted 865 days ago
Because it's easier to use and less frustration.
Ron Bischofposted 865 days ago
If you appreciate elegance of customer focused design, support experiences that are actually pleasant and want to work with your computer rather than on it, choose Apple. I use Mac OS X, Windows and Linux daily and the former is the easiest and most productive for me.
Luckyposted 865 days ago
I thing you should choose Mac because of its features
James Rodriguezposted 865 days ago
I work at Apple and I can tell you that in my past when I used Windows, it was horrible. Mac are the best thing to happen to me. So I would go with a Mac, but you have to have the money, they don't come cheap! ;)
Alejandro Riveraposted 865 days ago
windows 7 and the ZuneHD are great improvements in Microsoft world
Jackson Wilderposted 865 days ago
I Like Them both equaly in different ways if you want a good pc that could take a couple games problobly go with hp povillion with at least 3-4 gigs of ram, not matter what mac you buy it will run great with some games for a way higher price range but the mojority of programs will not run on mac, most programs are made or pc or both companies, if you just want it to use for basic use like, words documents and twitter and maybe itunes then a dell inspiron would be a good choice, so over all, mac great performance but less programs, hp (pc), good performance with 3-4 gigs of ram and could take a game or two, or dell its performance is good for maybe a game with added ram but if you want to use a dell out of the box it's good for, documents, pictures, twitter, myspace, ect. MACS DO, have viruses but very little protection is recomended, and PC HAVE, many viruses but you should be fine with kyspersky running.
Thomas Chenposted 864 days ago
You get best of both worlds this way without spending too much (though the only reason I'm on MS these days is to play video games). I do everything else on Ubuntu.
James Walkerposted 864 days ago
Fanboys of either side will riotously defend their OS of choice, but the truth is they both have lots of good points and bad points.

It depends on what you want the computer for. If you want a gaming machine or an optimal development environment, go Windows. If you want an OS whose entire selling point (practically) is ease of use, go Mac.

Personally I'm more of a Windows guy, but I don't hate Mac in and of itself. Just differet technologies.
Jeremiahposted 864 days ago
You get what you pay for and no amount of money can make Windows not suck.
Release Kingposted 864 days ago
A Mac a day, keeps the PC away!!!
Brandon Grahamposted 855 days ago
An Apple a Day, Keeps a PC away!
Amani Smithposted 864 days ago
by a mac for security , speeed dependability , nice colours , easy unintsallations ,( dont try to make a video on mac too cmplicated)
by a windows pc for ease of use software's , games , home use ,( stay off the web with pc it attracts viruses and scammers )
Kash - Eyes on fireposted 864 days ago
I have a mac, and I love it!!
Release Kingposted 864 days ago
Here is a fact: I can run my ubuntu (with compiz fusion, 4 virtual desktops.), and 2 additional virtual XP SP3 (each running Vuze), each with 192mb Ram and 16mb vRam. Still, the entire thing uses up only 50% of my ram. Whereas, Vista, after bootup, occupies 50%. And more if i run any kind of software. This is the difference between memory management. I would say XP is nice, but its old. Only comparing the new, Ubuntu beats crap out of Windows every second.
John Newposted 864 days ago
All hail iGod! =S
Massimo Grossiposted 864 days ago
Go for Mac.
OSX 10.6 atm is the best OS around.
I'm coming from more than 15 years Windows, and since 3 years I'm totally jumped on the other side... and trust me there is no way back.
Good luck in your choice.
Max
Neil Emery posted 864 days ago
As an Apple Distinguished Educator I work very closely with schools and colleges and the Mac is a wonderful tool and platform for pupils to create work on
Ishan Goyalposted 864 days ago
Hate microsoft except for office 2007.. haven't owned mac but tried it.. don't know if it justifies the cost though.. UBUNTU is obviously the bet
Ravi Kumarposted 864 days ago
Wait for Office 2010.. I am loving it.. :)
Andrea Lazzarottoposted 864 days ago
Mac, Windows... proprietary software. No difference.
Chris Brayposted 864 days ago
I was a Windows user for 15 years, Linux user for 10 and although the Mac took a bit of getting used to, once I'd done that it really is the best computer I've ever used.
Jorgieposted 864 days ago
I learned MAC's in high school (20 years ago) and just a year ago went back. Honestly I miss some of the control I had on my Windows machine. I have to sort of Trust some things are working on the mac. iPhoto for example.
Suzan4Prezposted 864 days ago
What about trying linux...? ;-)
Jane Fisherposted 864 days ago
Only been using a Mac for about 6 months but it is sooo much faster than Windows. I hate it when I have to go back.
Error 601posted 864 days ago
If you're a gamer, get a console! If you want to use a computer and get stuff done, get a Mac. If you miss Windows, you can install that with Boot Camp or use a virtual machine. But, you probably won't miss Windows once you get comfy with Mac OS X.
Ricky Williamsposted 864 days ago
I have used both and there are things I like in each and hate in each so the Mac vs PC drama is so over-rated. It all depends on what you want to run, Mac users make it seem like using a Mac is the epitome of all things computing because it can also run Windows but what they wont tell you is that you need a license for Windows and all the Windows software you need to run as well as paying for the Mac, the Mac OS and any software you use on the Mac that you have to buy. So it's not that straightforward, I'm a Mac user too by the way so there is no Windows bias because I use both.
Peterposted 864 days ago
Mac and MS are different systems, different visions. Could'nt compare in that simple way.
Ravi Kumarposted 864 days ago
Win7 is the best thing ever happened to computers.. Mac is okay but is very overpriced. I have been using Mac since last 3 years and Win7 since last 8 months, Win7 is much better, lighter and faster.. I would say you wait for it..
Brishette Camuposted 864 days ago
i don't know if macs are lightyears ahead, but they work great and don't get viruses. i used PC's all my life until four years ago when i tried a Mac. i've never looked back & now i have three between my business and home.
matt_whiteposted 864 days ago
My last Mac laptop lasted four years with no maintenance requirements at all, and I used it 10-12 hours a day. My wife has it now, and it's still going strong. My PC before that was substantially cheaper, but lasted only about 6 months before things started going haywire, costing me time and money. You do the math...
Blackjack Joeposted 864 days ago
Truth is, I've used a Mac since before Windows 3.1 hit the market. I drifted to Linux until Mac OS X was released. Haven't looked back.
Mania_59posted 864 days ago
I think the mac as more of a toy than a computer. For me it is there for creating some wonderful pieces and also having fun (ahem iphone) but other than that just go with what is in your budget!
Ron Bischofposted 864 days ago
A certified Unix workstation is a toy? Sure, Macs are easy to use but are you sure toy is the right adjective?
Brandon Grahamposted 855 days ago
Your probably the smartest person posting here!
Chris Millerposted 864 days ago
If you're rich, have money to blow and like making music, go Mac. If you fall into any other category, go Windows 7.
Gary Cooperposted 864 days ago
Mac's do have some very elegant things about them. BUt if you think they don't suffer from some of the same problems a a Windows PC then you'd be mistaken. I get quite a lot of hangs, slowness, spinning beachballs etc. But, overall, I prefer OSX to Windows.
Jon Selbyposted 864 days ago
Its like choosing between a Mercedes or a Ford.
Juan Jose Herreraposted 864 days ago
Why don't you wait till windows 7 release?. You'll be surprise!!
Davideposted 864 days ago
I don't hate anyone, I like Macs, I use with satisfation WinXP and Office products but at home I have Ubuntu
CefiroGuy3posted 864 days ago
macs are really cool, but windows is highly versatile
95, 98, ME, XP, are still kicking it with great performance and reliability results .
VISTA stills needs to prove itself though.
Ron Bischofposted 864 days ago
Sorry, but Win '95, '98 & ME are not still "still kicking it with great performance and reliability results". Unless your standards for those parameters are very, very low. Windows did not have a stable kernel and architecture until W2K.
Brandon Grahamposted 855 days ago
Not to mention W2K and ME were the worse OS's they came out with.
ummm, ya thats stoy posted 864 days ago
it depends on your needs. If you need raw power and features, go with a pc. They are far more affordable for the hardware performance you get, plus Windows Seven is coming soon, and as a beta tester I can tell you it is very nice is pretty easy to use. It's a BIG improvement over XP and Vista, as it is now stable and now so demanding. But if you need a computer or laptop that just works all the time and you have no idea how to fix minor problems then definitely go with a mac. Just be aware that when you buy a pc you are paying for the hardware, when you get a mac you are paying for the ease of use.
Brandon Grahamposted 855 days ago
"When you buy a PC you are paying for the hardware"

So your telling me that if I buy an iMac and a Dell PC that the PC will have better hardware?
Oh yeah I forgot, the Intel Chips and Nvidia Graphics cards on the PC are better!
Too bad they are the same.
So if i buy a Mac then I get the same hardware, which handpicked by Apple, work better together, instead of like PC makers throwing any graphics card with just any processor and sell it as long as Vista will boot up, no matter the long term effects.
Jay Rooneyposted 864 days ago
Yeah, a bit more expensive, but you're paying for the peace of mind thy comes with having a machine that's easy, intuitive, secure (ie, no viruses) and most imprtantly, that simply WORKS without crashing all the time. Switched over in 2000 and hve never looked back since.
Devin Morkposted 864 days ago
I switched to mac two years ago. Second best decision of my life.
Mandy Quesnelposted 864 days ago
Expensive, but worth it. I swear to GOD! My Macbook Pro is my baby. Just over 1 year and never a virus, frozen screen, error message or anything annoying. = )
Martinposted 864 days ago
For the love of God buy Mac, no viruses, all in one box solution and it could run the evil that is Windows if need be.
Bob Dobbsposted 864 days ago
Use waht you are comfortable with, While I am genrally in the Mac-overrated crowd, if that is what you want than get it. However if you want versatiliy and pure Software choice PC's can't be beat.
Reginald Stallworthposted 864 days ago
If you choose mac you will never say that you regret your decision. Apple makes the computer fun and the seamless integration of all its products is unmatched by any corporation. Definitely go with an Apple.
Guy Burtonposted 864 days ago
Macs are nice bits of hardware, but im not a fan of the whole apple cult and much prefer either nice compatible windows or totally hackable gnu/linux
Chris Hopkinsposted 864 days ago
If you can afford it you have to go mac just for the beauty, bugger the practicality!
Bill Orrposted 864 days ago
Apple Mac... Always Apple Mac!
Thomas Borrenmoposted 864 days ago
Ask if anyone who has a Mac ever got a keylogger, i have many friends who have had there wow accounts hacked, all on windows. Ive used mac since.... along time ago, never had any problems with spyware, virus .... and all that shit. On my windows pcs its allways problem with that, u can wonder why soo many ppl want a Hackintosh, u install MacOS X on a regular PC
Curtis Livingstonposted 864 days ago
Macs don't have spywares or trojans or viruses. It's better plus you CAN play games on a Mac without being slowed down.
Noelposted 864 days ago
wait for Win 7 release on Oct 22, if you purchase any pc with vista now t you will be eligible for free upgrade to win 7 when it release's, or you can buy a mac and dual boot with win 7 in bootcamp,
Nic Romeroposted 864 days ago
Once you go Mac, you never go back!
mkelley33posted 864 days ago
IF u hav 2 pik only 1, ask urself how much u want to spend. Fast PC costs less, but likely lower quality hardware ergo shorter lifespan. OTOH, if u don't need MS software, go for the apple. I have both and love them as if they were my kids.
Joe Shepherdposted 864 days ago
A mac will make you a better person only if you use it to bludgeon self righteous evangelists from BOTH sides of this debate to death, because PC/Mac holy wars are probably the most tiresome creation of humanity. That said, definitely go with a mac if you plan to do this, the aluminum cases on the macbook pros will stand up to the punishment of forcibly removing derps from the genepool a lot better than a plastic cased PC laptop.
parahposted 864 days ago
macs are trash for anything that isnt media they dont get as many viruses cuz nobody cares enough to make one for mac...
Ben Bakerposted 864 days ago
One you go mac, you don't go back..
Randall Brownposted 864 days ago
I would so use windows, why more applications, Macs are nice but they come with a Hugh price tag also. I just got a Compaq so far so good. Windows Vista and available for Win 7 Upgrade
Dan Beerensposted 864 days ago
Have used both - no contest - Macs are the best and worth every penny! I will never go back. Try both and see what you decide.
Bryan Geekposted 864 days ago
It depends on how you want to use and get out of your technology. for me the choice was easy because I wanted the Media Center + Zune + Xbox 360 experience. Both platforms have come a long way but will provide different experiences and levels of integration with others.
Justin Leungposted 864 days ago
buy applecare and they will fix it every time it breaks, but lets not kid ourselves here, they break.
Ian Maymanposted 864 days ago
Mac is the only system that runs all software and can run OSX, Windows and Linux all at same. Search "Windows 7 vs Snow Leopard review" and let the computer experts tell you, it is always Mac. It's more secure, more reliable, and costs less in the long run as it is so stable. Often the software in the short-term costs less too thanks the software bundles that Mac users get.
Carbon Planet Ltdposted 864 days ago
A mac is cheaper, greener and much nicer to use.
Christopher Nicholasposted 863 days ago
Apple states that their Macs do not get viruses and that is true a bit but if anyone with a mac has ever gotten a virus their computer is obsolete and needs to be serviced by mac not to include the lack of software. PC's on the other hand do get viruses but with a good firewall and anti-virus ( I suggest Kaspersky Anti-virus 2010) program you shouldn't have much to worry about. Plus if it crashes there are about 1 million more people to work on them. One more suggestion get a custom built from a friend If you are in jacksonville you can call me I do great systems with fair prices
Shelly Lowenkopfposted 863 days ago
A Mac is a natural for a writer; it's that basic.
Christopher Nicholasposted 863 days ago
Sorry let me re-phrase the last thing I said about macs viruses mac does'nt get viruses they usually only get one its a linux based virus called a recycler virus you can't do anything but start all over again bye-bye files. Oh and as for how many versions of mac there are how hard is it to steal from open source
bertnicposted 863 days ago
That's funny, take one and work. Nowadays it doesn't matter so much which OS it uses when a good browser is on board. I use Ubuntu but I should say I use Chrome to access my webapps. The OS will slowly fade away (welcome Google Chrome OS)
Marco Thierposted 863 days ago

I second that!
Marco Thierposted 863 days ago
Somehow the quote disapeared:

the fact that this debate is even happening at all is laughable.
neekunposted 863 days ago
Use a Mac and stop worrying about system crash (aka Blue Screen of Dead) and viruses. Overall improves productivity!
infokarmaposted 863 days ago
Mac can get viruses as well. just that they have very less market share, So the people who make viruses dont target them. But a Mac is as vulnerable as a PC. And with Windows 7, the only difference between the two is that PCs are cheaper
DITGposted 863 days ago
If you are a girl and you have walked in a pair of Alexander McQueen shoes, you know that everything else you wear will be a step backwards. If you are a boy (or Girl) and have driven a super car, you know that everything else will feel boring. If you have flown first class long haul you know that you will hate economy for the rest of your life...Yet any pair of shoes can be comfortable, most modern cars are fast, flying long haul sucks (no mater what class you are in)...HOWEVER, your Alexander McQueens will last you for ever and you will love and cherish them. Your super car will cost you a fortune but you will smile everytime you turn the key. You may actually survive long haul with free champaign...Deep down everyone knows why they will prefer a MAC.
anniaposted 861 days ago
well said! let Sara make her own choice, but if she chooses Windoze, she's going to regret sooner or later.
Olly Murphyposted 863 days ago
Macs are sexy stylish and more intuitive than Windows. Macs don't get bugs either so they stay fast.... Did are mention they are pure sex?
new realityposted 863 days ago
by a windows PC and load linux on it. I think mac is a paid version of linux anyways. You can get twice the machine in a PC than you can a mac for the same price.
PalmBreezeCAFEposted 863 days ago
Macs and Windows PCs all do the same thing: run software. Choose your software first. Then look at the platforms that run it.
Arthur LaFlammeposted 863 days ago
Apple is a solid platform that works seamless with it's own hardware, Microsoft is a retro fit to different machines and such. I use both and I have much less trouble with my Apple product
Rupesh Thakareposted 863 days ago
It's just so easy to use Mac. With a new snow leopard Macs are twice as fast as previos versions.
Windows sucks bigtime.
anandnarayan891posted 863 days ago
Apple's products are very well designed . Its not a value product but its a luxury product which u will surely like
Alan Wareposted 863 days ago
Mac hands down... I switched in 2008.
Alex Papadopoulosposted 863 days ago
you will have less problems with a mac, and if need be it will run windows
Tavin Lanpheirposted 863 days ago
Get a Mac but watch for Windows 7 in October and Mac Buyer guide site at http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
demonic_pascalposted 863 days ago
It really depends. There are two questions you need to ask before you buy a Mac. Are you a digital artist? and Are you bad with computers? If you answer yes to either of those, get a Mac. They are dominant in your field /require less matinence then PCs that you wouldn't understand. If you answered no to both, go PC, you'll be sabing yourself a lot of money.
Ashesh Ambastaposted 863 days ago
It's all pretty relative. But I still feel that Apple has overcredited itself. Having an OS that is directly tied to the hardware is not what I'd call awesome computing. I'd call it taking the easy way out.

M$ on the other hand, sells its OS and it can be used on almost any system in the world. No matter how much you hate M$'s policies, or whatever, this is a real OS.

Apart from that, Apple will charge you a lot more for less hardware (imagine the premium they're making per computer).

I hate windows, honestly, but I hate apple more. I'd suggest you to concentrate more on premium hardware, save money, and go for a better configuration than a macbook for a lesser price. If windows be it, let it be, but I'd still concentrate more on what I'm getting in return for my money. In my case, Dell won hands down.
Steven Kopsteinposted 863 days ago
I've used both for years - the Mac continues to amaze me as the windows machines continue to annoy me. My macs last for many years so they are worth the extra $$$ in my humble. Mac seems to work with and inspire me - yes it's true. I just designed my new blog in a matter of minutes using iWeb. I could easily do a podcast and so much more - if only I had more time :)
iCafe Lawrenceposted 863 days ago
Hmmm...definitely go Mac, install Parallels or VMware if you must have Windows or Ubuntu or Linux or any other OS that comes along. And then just decide for yourself, but it's kinda cool having 2 (or 3 or 4) computers in 1.
Darren Chandlerposted 863 days ago
why am I getting involved in this debate again? it's a moot point. Macs now have Intel chips and run Windows and Office. their prices have come down considerably in the last year or two. if you value reliability and ease of use, the added premium is worthwhile. if not, stick with a Windows machine.
Nancy Jonesposted 863 days ago
you don't have to choose! I use all three.
Dominic Rossposted 863 days ago
Mac all day long! With windows, your blood pressure will rise, and your doctor will tell you off. Mac's aren't cheap, but you're paying for quality, not "conformity".
sedef onderposted 863 days ago
Can't remember last time I saw the blue screen of death. That's reason enough.
Liam Cassidy posted 863 days ago
I was a Windows power-user since 3.1 and that includes Windows 7 (been a beta tester since the first iterations). Still, I switched to Mac and I don't miss Windows AT ALL. It's not that it's a terrible OS, just that the experience on Mac OS X is far superior and more satisfying. PLUS productivity just SOARS!
Mousecloneposted 863 days ago
Linux rocks. Mac is based off of Unix, and MS well people should know by now. If you are a big office user, stay with MS, if you are a graphics person or want to be go with mac. If you are just going to use it for Internet crap, the go Ubuntu. I use Ubuntu for everything now, and working on sticking for OSS for everything at the house. Syupport is the only way it gets better.
RalphMartinArchitectposted 863 days ago
You can run Windows, Unix, Linux & Mac OSX on a Apple computer.
I have used Win/Mac for many years & Macs are WAY better, easier, far less problems & get out of the way so I can get my work done. Architecture.
Benjamin Levyposted 863 days ago
I work with both PC and Mac side-by-side everyday for 10 years. For web app.'s Pc all the way, i hardly ever think Mac will catch-up as a web-design tool. But for film and music Mac hold its own, I have Finial Cut and Pro Tools Pro HD3 and its everything you could ever want for production on the go. But for Photoshop and web-site design Windows is easier, faster and better.
wendy grimsdaleposted 863 days ago
No contest. Microsoft may give you function but never ever style. Apple gives you function and incredible style
Rob Weaver, PMPposted 863 days ago
Not only is the price competitive with a comparable PC, the support from Apple is light year ahead of anything a consumer can buy (it rivals enterprise support, and often helps even if you're out of warranty - can't say I've ever had the same be true for a PC of any brand).
Joavanni Guadalupeposted 863 days ago
i own a macbook pro. im a dma student and i find my mac more and more helpful everyday
Tim Bryanposted 863 days ago
It's VHS v BETAMAX all over again, ask yourself this: Do I want style rather than an easy life? Can I afford the performance I want? It's not as cut and dried as apple users would like you to believe, For £625 (pounds) I have a quad core monster and a decent graphics card/power supply, It NEVER EVER crashes. Can You afford to blow 2K on a PC?
Lane Harlanposted 863 days ago
I would recommend a Mac, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's light years ahead of Windows. I have used everything Microsoft from DOS 2.2 Circa 1985? to Windows XP/2003 and switched to Mac Leopard in early 2008. The difference is sort of like that between bronze, silver, and gold medalists at the Olympics. Windows probably gets the bronze, Ubuntu the silver, and Leopard the Gold. The differences are ultimately small, but very important. The single biggest reason I have found that I like the Mac is that it's roots are based on Unix (look it up if you're not a techie) and it doesn't have the concept of a program registry (at least not in the same way Windows does). Each time you install a piece of software, Windows gets slower and slower. Even if you remove the software, the performance hit remains. This is primarily because of the growth of the Windows registry, as removing software doesn't remove all of its registry entries. With a Mac, all of a piece of software is included within a "container" - when you delete software (with few exceptions) it's gone, period. As a power user, it was a regular thing for me to reformat my Windows machines once per year to clean them up and regain performance. Not so with my Mac. Additionally, I run VMWare on it and run Windows within VMWare for software that I can't get on the Mac side. I've had 5 VMWare instances all running different versions of Windows running simultaneously on my Macbook Pro and everything ran smoothly. As Apple likes to say, it just works!
Tannieposted 863 days ago
They're both Personal Computers, Apple seems like it costs more upfront, but there is added stuff on it. Microsoft is a little more tricky, you don't know what kind of upgraded software you need until you get it. And Macs are made for organization, iCal, it has a feature called expose that helps declutter space. Microsoft is suited for gamers, and people who likes square type screens. Of course there are more reasons, but that's something called research.
OJBposted 863 days ago
Macs may cost a bit more but they are definitely worth it! PC hardware is adequate but Windows and PC software mostly sucks (except maybe a few good games)
Tania Patersonposted 863 days ago
I'd go with the Mac! I had a Mac about 5 years ago. Never got a virus or anything. Had to replace it after three years. Since than I've had to replace 3 windows computers. They lasted 6 to 9 months because of viruses. I should have stuck with the Mac!
Alex Grossmanposted 863 days ago
You'll never regret that choice
Juan Cervantes, RPhposted 863 days ago
macs are SO overrated, but they' still work fine.
Speaking as someone who has both, macs are actually less secure in some ways compared to windows, BUT it doesn't matter cause virus makers prefer windows (so do game developers)
but you can still play some games on it
Jason Kaczorposted 863 days ago
;-)
Peleposted 863 days ago
Long live the Mac! Got a PC myself although I've had great joy surfin and doing various over things such as twittering. I hear people say that Mac's rarely get viruses
brianhernandezposted 863 days ago
Kamran point #1 is true. But points 2-4 are BS / completely bogus. A Mac is a computer just like a PC; same hardware in fact. Only the OS (superior IMO until Win 7 came out) is diff than Windows. I work, play, communicate, teach, and support on Macs. Both are great and will do 99% of what people need; it's just a preference choice. Smaller Mac market but better more dedicated developers.
Chandra posted 863 days ago
Mac is way way better.... If you use it for office go to windows - if you use it for office, design, play music, manage your thinks, do everything go to MAC "BELIEVE ME, you have to try mac and you can say about mac. Dont say anythink if you never try it"
Jeremy Lesterposted 863 days ago
People still debate this? Ha. I was a Windows guy for years. For years, i was a stupid guy. Go buy a Mac.
Ed Chavezposted 863 days ago
I just picked up MacBook Pro. Wow... is all I can say. Makes my Dell XPS look and feel ancient.
Maria Vipondposted 863 days ago
haha pray to iGod!!
Roubenposted 862 days ago
Both have advantages and disadvantages. Try to understand your needs and pick the best tool to suit your needs, but also the one you'd be comfortable maintaining (Windows is kinda weak at the whole maintenance thing...). Oh and if you pick Windows, wait until Windows 7 comes out. Vista is garbage.
Alex Blueposted 862 days ago
If you are looking for High-End graphics go with a Mac.
Aditya Mundleposted 862 days ago
Wait for Apple to actually unveil it... then make a choice
Stanley Langaposted 862 days ago
Doesn't MS own part of Apple?
Ron Bischofposted 862 days ago
No.
Madhavi Ghareposted 862 days ago
From a person who used Windoze for over 15 years: It took me just two looks to fall in love with Macs, and am now a proud owner of a MacBook Pro for just over 6 months now. But, truth be told, I have never enjoyed using a computer up until now - it is so surprising how everything just works on a Mac… and yes, you will find all kinds of software which will do all those things and more just like you have had for Windoze. Am truly very happy using a Mac. And I wish you the same happiness too! :)
R P (Germany)posted 862 days ago
MAC is proprietary, esp. the browser !
This is extremely dangerous on the long run, esp. if you getting "dependent" on it because of your data, programs and "ways of working with others in the network"
Ron Bischofposted 862 days ago
Incorrect. Where do you get your information from?

The basis of the Safari browser is webkit, originally began as a branch of the KHTML and KJS libraries from KDE. In fact, it's being used as the basis for modern mobile web browsers on Smart Phones. Apple has released as open source and you can download the nightly builds here:

http://webkit.org/

More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit

Furthermore, the core of Mac OS X is Darwin and is open source as well. Darwin integrates a number of technologies, most importantly Mach 3.0, operating-system services based on 4.4BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution), high-performance networking facilities, and support for multiple integrated file systems.

http://developer.apple.com/Darwin/
alexandra benderposted 862 days ago
definitely a Mac!! i am using one right now actually. i love them, they are waaaayy better than microsoft- they load quickly and there are never problems with them!
Jildou Gerritsmaposted 862 days ago
Mac is great. Everything works fluid and naturally. The three things you have to think about is:
Would you like to play games and have mainstream programs? Also if you think it's great to hack in you own system and stuff, then go for windows.
Would you like a minimum of virussus and an operating system that works very naturally and nice ( + almost no crashes)? They you have to go for OSX. It's a very closed OS, so change anything in the system is difficult
Would you like a minimum of virusses, maybe adjust your system on your wishes and still don't Pay a lot of money for it? They you have to go for Ubuntu. Unfortunately, you have to search a bit for some programs, as the most mainstream programs don't work on Ubunu
Warren Buckleyposted 862 days ago
In my 6 years if working in I.T., no one ever came up to me and gushed 'OMG I love my new Dell!', but people would regularly look smitten and talk about how they loved their mac. Runs everything now they're using Intel chips. And my I.T. Dept had two mac techs for 175 machines and 9 people to look after the 400 PC's.
CK Tsuiposted 862 days ago
I like my DELL Studio XPS 13 :)
Warren Buckleyposted 858 days ago
Yeah you 'like' it, but you didn't say 'love'. I rest my case. ;)
bluelaughposted 862 days ago
My Mac has not had the annoying pop up bubble like Windows does when you start the computer.
Damian Hyltonposted 862 days ago
Get a MAC and watch as life get that much easier and better! sunny days ahead
Danger Snafposted 862 days ago
I have all of them and windows is very good no matter what people think... mac... i cannot do much on it, but ubuntu it's still young but it's the best of those.... if you don't know what to choose, choose win .... for now.
Keith Demeleposted 862 days ago
Macs are fine, but overrated. You pay for a culture and name. I am content with building awesome computers at a fraction of the price.
ben arnoldposted 862 days ago
Well, not Ubuntu 'cos it's nearly as bloated as Windows but any decent flavour of Linux :D
ben arnoldposted 862 days ago
Oh, by the way: Mac & Windows should be Windows or Mac OS, or a Windows PC or a Mac. Personally I'd have Linux on a Mac.
Krystalposted 862 days ago
I like Ubuntu for it's ease of use and overall simplicity, plus the fact that it is so customizable. I can understand how it would be overwhelming for the non-tech savvy. I grew up with Win95, then OS8 then XP and now Ubuntu. Out of all the different OS's Ubuntu has given me the least amount of trouble. BUT, it is also the most complex to work with, programming wise. I keep a computer with XP-Pro and one with Ubuntu. Best of both worlds. :)
Justin Sundbergposted 862 days ago
its obvious!
Phil EuBankposted 862 days ago
if money is no object and you want hassle free computing then Mac for sure....if you are pretty computer savvy and can deal with pc hiccups then you can get a great pc for a terrific dollar amount
troy_sposted 862 days ago
Value your freedom. Choose Free Software.
troy_sposted 862 days ago
Sad really.

Value your freedom. Choose Free Software.

It isn't the easy path. Neither was your ability to learn how to read, write, or do math supplied via a simple click and some slick marketing.
Stanposted 862 days ago
What people dont realize is that Mac OS is build on Unix kernel might as well go for Linux and install Ubuntu ... its free and runs better than windows/macos
Ron Bischofposted 862 days ago
Mac OS X is built on the Mach microkernel and Unix from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix that were incorporated in Nextstep, the core of Mac OS X.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_kernel

While various distributions of Linux may be downloadable to end users at no cost, they are not free. Billions have been spent by major corporations such as IBM, Oracle, Sun, HP, Red Hat, Novell, etc. extend and support Linux. Ubuntu was launched with funding from Mark Shuttleworth, who used a portion of his fortune from the sale of Thawte to VeriSign in 1999. He continues to fund the development of Ubuntu via Canonical Ltd. which issues and sells support for desktop and server versions.

Nothing is free, despite what you may read from FOSS advocates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)

Define "better". While most find Ubuntu 9.04 more reliable, easier to install and maintain than Windows XP SP3 (what the vast majority of Windows users are running), I can't say the same compared to Mac OS X 10.6.1 (Snow Leopard). And Mac and Windows have more sophisticated UI (user interfaces).
mlongacreposted 862 days ago
How much do you want to spend? With so much software moving to the net, the choice between MAC and MSFT isn't that big a deal any more, unless you have some other specific need. The more you spend, the more cool factor you get, but that's about all. Other than cost, the two main considerations are virus susceptibility on Windows boxes vs less available desktop software (ie games) on Apple, as discussed at length by other posters. I own a Mac that also boots Windows and about a dozen PCs including a netbook. The netbook gets the most use.
CK Tsuiposted 862 days ago
Both Mac and Windows excel in their own areas. Do you really need those Mac specific software? Ask yourself this, would you pay a premium price for a Mac or a significantly lower price for a PC that have the same specs or better? There isn't much a PC can't do vs a Mac, however, the story's different when it's vice versa. Compatibility is one issue and customization/adaptation is another biggie. I agree that Apple products have godlike designs but looks can only go so far. If you want to change your Apple system every year or 2 year, feel free to do so. I, for one, do not have that much disposable income to keep updated.
Ron Bischofposted 862 days ago
Define "compatibility". Please outline what consumer software categories aren't written for Mac OS X. With the exception of specialized vertical market software, I believe you'll find many business software segments covered as well. As the previous poster mentioned, with software moving to the cloud, this is becoming less relevant for common usage.

Most Mac users don't buy new systems every 1 or 2 years. And it's not just hardware specs. There's the OS and very valuable bundled software as well.
Donaven Staabposted 862 days ago
With over 15yrs of daily work with both Mac and Windows system I have to state here that Mac is the best choice for anything a personal computer user would need to do. Extremely less time supporting and repairing software and hardware issues with the Mac and more time working and playing. Period.
Coty Roschevitzposted 862 days ago
Get either one depending on your taste in hardware, looks, blah, blah. Then download virtualbox or some other virtualization software to run some other OS. I have a vista host with the ability to run Ubuntu or XP in a vm. Try it, love it.
Ryan Graingerposted 862 days ago
Really, Macs are just better machines. It's the best OS out there. I bet you can't find 3 Windows apps that don't have a better (more feature-full/cheaper) Mac OS equivalent.
Marty Yandleposted 862 days ago
Don't need annual virus software. OS system mch more intuitive. Redesigned w more features, lower price. One To One tutorial at Apple Store = $2 an hour ! really get to know your stuff. Al compatible. I could go on & on...
Kurt Harrigerposted 861 days ago
Apple is a fad and Jobs is a tool. It's only popular right now cause the success of iPod iPhone, but apple is starting to show their true colors again. If they can create a closed platform again they will, and when they do they will become irrelivant once again. Macs are way overpriced for same hardware you could get elsewhere. Software seems to be more expensive too compared to windows, unless you install a port from Linux, but if you going to run Linux software might as well save the money buy a bigger faster machine and just run Linux!
Ron Bischofposted 861 days ago
Amusingly, people, pundits and industry titans have predicted the failure of Apple for over 30 years. Here's some facts:

Apple Inc. is an American multinational corporation that designs and manufactures consumer electronics and computer software products. The company's best-known hardware products include Macintosh computers, the iPod and the iPhone. Apple software includes the Mac OS X operating system, the iTunes media browser, the iLife suite of multimedia and creativity software, the iWork suite of productivity software, Final Cut Studio, a suite of professional audio and film-industry software products, and Logic Studio, a suite of audio tools. The company operates more than 250 retail stores in nine countries and an online store where hardware and software products are sold.[2]
Established in Cupertino, California on April 1, 1976 and incorporated January 3, 1977,[5] the company was called Apple Computer, Inc. for its first 30 years, but dropped the word "Computer" on January 9, 2007[6] to reflect the company's ongoing expansion into the consumer electronics market in addition to its traditional focus on personal computers.[7] Apple has about 35,000 employees worldwide[3] and had worldwide annual sales of US$32.48 billion in its fiscal year ending September 29, 2008.[4] For reasons as various as its philosophy of comprehensive aesthetic design to its distinctive advertising campaigns, Apple has established a unique reputation in the consumer electronics industry. This includes a customer base that is devoted to the company and its brand, particularly in the United States.[8] Fortune magazine named Apple the most admired company in the United States in 2008 and in the world in 2009.[9][10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc.
Brandonposted 861 days ago
There are viruses on mac just very,very,very rare....plus if you want to upgrade a pc it will run you a nice sum of money just upgraded to snow leopard for $30 PC cant touch that
CK Tsuiposted 861 days ago
I'm not impressed with the new Snow Leopard OS, however, Win 7 shows vast improvement over Vista.
Tom Janssonposted 861 days ago
A Mac is a good choice, but so is Linux too. They are based on Unix which is far ahead of WIndows. At least Ubuntu and Fedora are nowadays much easier to install than Windows , and you get a working platform, not only a base operating system as with Windows, and hardly no risk for viruses.
Alex Holmposted 861 days ago
really better hardware will not decide a main OS release and that is the bottom line.
Brian leeposted 861 days ago
I am finding OSX to be Unix with a glossy front end bolted on and for everyday use Windows is leaps ahead and so damned easy to use which is why its a market leader i suppose.
Greg Fountainposted 861 days ago
To me, a Mac is like KDE, Gnome, etc. for Linux. It's a "skin" sitting on top of the shell. Mac people could care less what is under the hood or how it ticks. They just care about how pretty it is.
Ron Bischofposted 861 days ago
Your tweets indicate you may be attempting to create a hackintosh. Is that why you find Mac OS X difficult? You no doubt know it's not supported.
pedro posdataposted 861 days ago
M is good but not better. Apple people act like sectarians. it is a cognitive dissonance , thinking mac is better , based on a very very old idea
Khalil majdalawiposted 861 days ago
Ubuntu Rocks and better that all $$ suckers
Khalil majdalawiposted 861 days ago
*than
Bruce Cooperposted 861 days ago
no question
Kris McKennaposted 861 days ago
check out hackintoshes, then buy a mac if you're down
Ulf Fischbeckposted 861 days ago
Mac looks beautiful. It's so stylish. But Steve J. is yet another capitalist in rockstar disguise.
Greg Fountainposted 861 days ago
Just returned an iMac to a "qualified dealer" because the power supply failed. I've worked technically with computers for 12 years, and I'm not qualified to swap out a power supply? No, because Apple has made it so ridiculously hard to even get into an iMac to service it yourself. Never mind the fact that I had another iMac on the shelf I could've swapped hard drives with and continued work. Nope, had to send it. WTF!?

It's also funny how graphic artists are constantly rendering their Macs useless because of font conflicts. Fonts... making a PC useless. LOL. Please.

It will be funny when Macs do get a virus in the wild. No one will know what do to because they have heard that "Macs don't get infected" and haven't planned how to react. It's not if, but when.

I'm a PC, and WIndows 7 rocks! Been running the RTM since it was released to TechNet.
Ron Bischofposted 861 days ago
There are compromises involved in using a compact, all-in-one design. You did select the iMac form factor over a tower, correct?

And how's the Windows 7 networking issue working out for you?
Skyler Nelsonposted 861 days ago
People against apple are either in denial or have not tried one. Windows is garbage, I use windows all day at work along side my MBP. The PC is a quad core 8GB ram and runs SLOWER and has about 99.9% more glitches than my dual core 4GB ram MBP.

Furthermore people who say mac's are a toy or a play thing are plain ignorant. While a windows user prides himself on talking about how awesome his motherboard, processor, ram, video card, sound card, bla bla etc. is, I'm being productive getting actual work done, on a machine that actually works.
Tanya Medukhaposted 861 days ago
APPLE is the best ever! had like 2 Windows computers, all big pile of fail. Got a Mac Book Pro, fell in luv. The price is so worth it, because of the quality of the product. Great graphics, 7 hrs of battery instead of 2 and amazing tools for your work and creative side.
Tanya Medukhaposted 861 days ago
I did experience a few problems with my Mac, suck as only Windows compatible downloads and video-playing websites. Its not a problem, Mac can now run windows and leopard on the same platform. I luv the organization of everything and little apps you can download for the dashboard. Macs do get hundreds of viruses, but its compared to millions 4 windows. I can keep going about this, but the best computer is the one that has a glowing apple.
Ron Bischofposted 861 days ago
"Macs do get hundreds of viruses" Can you document that assertion? It's possible but inherently less likely in *nix based operating systems.
unpocodecasitodoposted 861 days ago
Even unjustified is worth it if you enjoy stability and cute
Dorian posted 861 days ago
Macs are a very user friendly OS. you not need bother buying an antivirus as no one out there makes viruses for Macs. To add there are only a small limited PC games for Macs if you are a savvy PC gamer i'ts not for you unless you have 2 different systems!
But in preference I much prefere the new Microsoft Windows 7, the OS after Vista & after XP. I am currently using it and have been now for a few months, the avaluation version that is. It's way better than Vista and Xp by far! very stable! Allthough, you will still need an antivirus becasue the OS is maded by Microsft so therefor there will be plenty of viruses to watch ot for! But I love it and its also great for games!
STEVE SLACKposted 859 days ago
i like it
Isaiahposted 858 days ago
yes macs can get viruses but only if you are using an admin account and installing some seriously shifty things on you system. If you arent doing that then macs are the nicest systems around. I got a mac min running Snow Leopard AND Windows 7 RC, its the best of both worlds so to speak.
uni2canariasposted 857 days ago
Mac changed my vision of computing after 2 decades of windows. Just enough Win crashes!
uni2canariasposted 857 days ago
Mac changed my vision of computing after 2 decades of windows. Just enough Win crashes!
Michael Kompaposted 856 days ago
What are you going to use it for Gaming Go Windows, CAD still go Windows, But if you are going to use it for multimedia MAC is the way. Pay the Premium and get iphoto to organize for Photos, imovie for video editing, the burn with idvd and share with itunes and an iphone or send straight to youtube from imovie. Then watch a movie or tv show you downloaded in itunes thru front row or send it to ur apple tv from ur Airport

Remember how much you will spend on Media Programs that don't come standard on Windows and the $300-$400 Windows 7 update.

Oh and i forgot about boot camp which turns your mac into a PC which gives u the best of both worlds...

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Maureen Paulposted 856 days ago
Mac is the best pick
Matt Davidsonposted 856 days ago
This Apple or Linux or MS is better than the other is garbage.
Brandon Grahamposted 855 days ago
Go by these words, IN THE LONG RUN A PC WILL COST MORE THAN A MAC!!

Proof: Microsoft Office 2007 is only a trail version, retail cost just for the Student Edition is $149, Macs come with iLife (Full Version): http://www.apple.com/ilife/ and iWork, alternative to Microsoft Office, is only $79 dollars. You will end up buying more for the PC.

Also, when I bought a Dell, I went ahead and reinstalled the OS. Mostly to get rid of all the crap trial software they put on the system when shipped so Microsoft is more of a hassle company, no matter what anyone here says, Microsoft WILL definitely kill your nerves and make you lose your hair, trust me, I know.

People say Macs are for ease of use. True, because apple developers are obviously not stupid. Compare things like the simplicity of finding something on a MAC with spotlight compared to that crappy start search in Windows (so crappy slow and sometimes doesn't find things that i typed even when its the exact name of the file). Menus are a lot simpler in OS X than in Windows. Programs opening speeds are cut in half in OS X. Internet Explorer compared to the MAC version of Safari is a laughable comparison compared to speed, just go away Explorer, Quit trying.

Also, look at the differences in the two companies website for further purchases of which ever company you choose. Microsoft-talk about clutter, spread your graphics and words out a bit, take some of the press release crap off and quit trying to prove to the public that your better than apple, your not, you should be thinking about how to make your OS better. Apples website is just like their OS smooth and clean, PERIOD.

A post I read here, a guy said Snow Leopard is more of an service pack, but one thing to point out Snow Leopard from Leopard is only $29 dollars. On that note, I downloaded the RC 1 for Windows 7 and it looks exactly like Vista, no changes, just a few stupid things they added like window preview and crap nobody really needs, especially when most of their time is spent looking up Errors on Microsoft's cluttered website. On that second note, it seems like Windows 7 is a service pack as well, except instead of $29 dollars it will be $119.99 for home premium, there is more money spent, aha, this is funny. Look at the Microsoft page at the new features of windows 7, (i.e.; "Favorite gadgets can go anywhere on your Windows 7 desktop.") mm sounds like Mac's dashboard feature to me which is apps on your screen, except without the bulky RAM hogging sidebar like vista AND 7 have. I could go on for days, but I believe this is proof enough.

So in conclusion, IMO, I would give $2,000 more for the same specs just to get the MAC!
michael hollowayposted 855 days ago
I'm running a windows 98 with an upgrade to windows 2000 professional. The patches and updates had become larger than the OS itself... ..so, I off-loaded 'came-with' apps. and imported simple, stand-alones. The system is still working well in the world of web 2.0.
Clayton Littlejohnposted 853 days ago
I'VE HEARD TOO MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE MAC.
Brandon Grahamposted 852 days ago
Can you list maybe just one problem? Please
Douglas Potterposted 852 days ago
I've owned and loved my Macs, but finding compatible software for applications I wanted was always a problem. Now that I'm fluent in Windows, I never look back.
Vishwas Manjulaaposted 851 days ago
But still I will buy Windows 7.
Release Kingposted 785 days ago
Now, we don't get moron's like that :D "Buy windows 7 crap, even though you can get Mac".
darren noronhaposted 850 days ago
I LOVE MAC
Rollmeoh602posted 850 days ago
Mac is good and fast but are mostly for entertainment like making videos or music and Microsoft windows is a bit slower but have more programs and user friendly !!
Brandon Grahamposted 847 days ago
Windows does not equal user friendly. Don't get me wrong I know how to use Windows just fine, but come on, OS X is so much simpler to use, that would mean user friendly. I mean come on Microsoft, the registry?, get rid of that crap and come up with something that people can understand like the very much neater .plist files that are used by OS X. I could give you many reason why OS X is better, days and days of it, let's go.
stacy_a_lbcposted 844 days ago
Macs are trouble-free; without Windoze headaches, you are free to focus on your work, not the latest time your computer froze up causing your work to get lost
stacy_a_lbcposted 844 days ago
A lot of verbiage in the comments after this poll. I wouldn't even waste time debating with Windows afficionados. You want to use Windows, fine! Enjoy your second-rate computing experience. Apple is flourishing on the strength of its high quality products. Quality sells itself. I've suffered on Windows machines for years. Macs are superior.
rhrnposted 843 days ago
*nix powa
Chantal Coolsma posted 836 days ago
Mac offcourse.
Dean Lombardposted 824 days ago
I won't rehash arguments that are undoubtedly below. I have used both platforms for decades, both are very capable, I prefer a Mac. They are more expensive but higher quality hardware and user experience. I would only recommend a PC if you want specific PC games that rely on specific hardware that can only be found in PCs. Otherwise, Mac is my choice. Especially if you just want to use the thing and not mess about constantly in the back end (though you can do that on a Mac if you want to,m as much as you can on Windows. You just don;t have to)
Walker Foleyposted 823 days ago
Apple has changed my life: Both in the way I work, and the way I get paid. Owe everything to it, no more frustrations.
Samuel Castanon IIIposted 820 days ago
It's just better all around.
Alexander vdLposted 817 days ago
windows 7 fixes everything that everybody hated about vista. you will enjoy windows 7 a lot. in terms of capability its equal to mac, and quite less expensive.
Chris Lynposted 817 days ago
Once you go Mac...
martrez princeposted 816 days ago
alwyas bet on apple
Robert Vecchiolliposted 813 days ago
Macs are WAY over rated (Apple Mail is the WORST email application on the face of the planet)... Bill doesn't need any of our money (Outlook is the second worst email application out there)... Most Linux Distros will run on just about any machine you can throw at it... and upgrades are ~free~
Emile Claassensposted 807 days ago
Mac is the only religion.
Jim Stevensposted 805 days ago
If you want a good quality laptop, Asus laptops will last longer than anything else. Yes they will last longer than a Mac (which would become obsolete anyway with the next MacBook refresh that happens every six months). Toshiba, and Sony will rank out the top three longest lasting laptops (not PCs, laptops, that includes MacBooks). You will also pay less for the higher quality. Macs are exorbitantly expensive for no really good reason.
thomas james slaterposted 782 days ago
I've got both. My G5 is nearly 5 years old and still humming. I'll get a Mac Pro next year and use my G5 as a backup machine probably for another 2 years, and even then I'll probably give it to someone else. The G5 has frozen 6 times. No crashes. No blue screens. No hardware failures. In that meantime, I'm on my 3rd PC now. *cough*
Yavuz Cevikposted 769 days ago
You should have both!
Yavuz Cevikposted 769 days ago
One should recognize that both platforms have their advantages and disadvantages.
Charlie Yanjaninposted 725 days ago
Use one SPACE for MacOS and another for Windows. Haven't had to use the Windows SPACE in three weeks. Mac is infinitely more stable and quicker.
Joachim Bakker Veibyposted 711 days ago
I was a windows maniac until last part of last year. I promise you, you will not be dissapointed in a mac. Stabile, hardly any security issues(if any), and are far better at the things you do daily. Look it up, try one, and decide then;).
lazaacposted 643 days ago
same like u... but i'm using Hackintosh right now... it's kinda cool! :p
Carlosposted 709 days ago
Buy a mac, install windows and linux. Now you don't have to choose.
lazaacposted 643 days ago
u are really funny dude! :) but i like this answer...
Randy Zeyenposted 682 days ago
A computer may be just a computer but my Mac keeps me happier than my PC.
Nilesh Govindarajanposted 378 days ago
Linux, I don't suggest Ubuntu though. Fedora is good.
Evgeniy Korolevposted 377 days ago
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Vishamposted 339 days ago
Microsoft is more susceptible to viruses and what not. Apple never had a virus/malware on my mine. I'm a Microsoft and Apple fanboy.
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Martin Skopalposted 236 days ago
Just go with the Mac. Customer satisfaction speaks for itself.
Scott Hicksposted 151 days ago
There is no premium for a Mac. If I buy the equivalent hardware in a PC I pay about the same amount of money. There are cheaper PCs but you do not get your dollar's worth out of them. I only replace a Mac when it's over 5 years old and I always run the latest OS possible. Sometimes I run another OS on my Mac but not often as Mac OS X usually can handle anything I throw at it with ease. I may be an advanced user but I cut my teeth on old 8-bit systems by Commodore. I support users on a daily basis that run iOS, Windows (multiple versions) and Mac OS X at different levels of ability on each one. It is sometimes easier to support Mac OS X than it is to support Windows however this is usually because the engineers have taken more time to do things that make sense and work more consistently than they do on other platforms. Also, yes I have spent a lot of time on Linux and with other hardware.